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Percentage of Europeans Who Are Willing To Fight A War For Their Country

Map created by reddit user Spartharios

The map above shows the percentage of residents in various European countries who are willing to fight and go to war for their country.

Full results below:

From high to low, these are the percentages by country:

  • 74% – Finland
  • 73% – Turkey
  • 62% – Ukraine
  • 59% – Russia
  • 58% – Kosovo
  • 55% – Bosnia and Herzegovina
  • 55% – Sweden
  • 54% – Greece
  • 47% – Poland
  • 46% – Serbia
  • 41% – Latvia
  • 39% – Switzerland
  • 38% – Ireland
  • 38% – Macedonia
  • 38% – Romania
  • 37% – Denmark
  • 29% – France
  • 28% – Portugal
  • 27% – United Kingdom
  • 26% – Iceland
  • 25% – Bulgaria
  • 23% – Czech Republic
  • 21% – Austria
  • 21% – Spain
  • 20% – Italy
  • 19% – Belgium
  • 18% – Germany
  • 15% – The Netherlands

The results are from a 2015 WIN/Gallup International global survey. The sample size and methodology was as follows:

A total of 62,398 persons were interviewed globally. In each country a representative sample of around 1000 men and women was interviewed either face to face (30 countries; n=32258), via telephone (12 countries; n=9784) or online (22 countries; n=20356). Details are attached. The field work was conducted during September 2014 – December 2014. The margin of error for the survey is between 2.14 and 4.45 +3-5% at 95% confidence level.

Europe is the continent with the fewest people willing to fight a war for their country. Globally, an average of 61% of respondents in 64 countries said they would. Morocco (94%), Fiji (94%), Pakistan (89%), Vietnam (89%) and Bangladesh (86%) had the highest percentage willing to fight.

The country with the fewest people willing to go to war was Japan, with just 11% of respondents saying they would fight.

Since World War Two, Europe has been relatively peaceful with major exceptions of the Yugoslav Wars in the 1990s and various political suppressions during the Cold War. However, the 19th century was also a relatively peaceful time for Europe that ended with the start of World War I.

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  3. as a german i can only agree. I simply wouldnt fight on behest of THESE politicans to defend a nation of socialist Looters.

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    • Bro, I think that’s why you guys must fight, to reclaim you country from the hands of those socialist monsters

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    • It is obvious that German’s also refuse to “fight” the left and liberals in politics.
      The German battle flag: A white cross on a white field!

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    • You may think like that all along when you’re angry at the politicians, because your nation doesn’t feel it would likely that a hostile force would try to take over control.

      But when you start to think of the existential threats to your right of choosing the corrupt and dishonest politicians of your liking, you will likely come to other thoughts. And you will grab a gun, if one is at all available, even if your training is inadequate.

      Being a Finn, we have our lot of stupid politicians that I hate as much as anyone, but still I must realise that this country is rated as the most stable political establishment on Earth, and while I could easily throw out some silly ministers, if someone comes from another country to define who may rule over us, I’ll be quite ready to pull the trigger. [Figuratively at least, I’m now nominally too old for active service, though should a real situation come up, I might still know how to run an infantry platoon of similar fat middle-aged blokes who can run zig-zag and shoot straight.]

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      • I wouldnt grab a gun. I would grab my relatives and leave the country. There is absolutely nothing worth fighting for left over here.

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        • I wonder why you are here then (supposing you are). But freedom means that you can either stay or leave.

          Not everyone has that freedom. Moreover, if you have a Finnish passport, it’s one of the most widely respected ones for going to any country without needing a visa.

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          • Im a german, and im still here because i was born here. Simple as that. But politically i have no representation, since all german partys are collectivist parties (no wonder that both communism and national socialsm were invented here…) which i simply cannot identify with. From a pojnt of ideology i would be better suited for a country like australia or new zealand. And my above statement doesnt mean i wouldnt fight for anyone, just not for germany, a country where my only value is the tax revenue the government presses out of me.

            And in fact im planning to leave germany withing the next few years.

      • You may be a bit quick with your decision to grab a gun and fight.
        I experienced war.
        Spent time in the basement while shells were falling around the city. Then came aeroplanes to drop their load. Sniper fire on civilians was common. It was hell.
        30 years later if you ask people who participated fighting in that war would they fight again. Majority would say a definite NO!

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        • And there are better and more peaceful possibilities. The Russians got rid of the so called sockets trying to reclaim power in the 1990s through a country wide general strike. You could also get rid of an occupying nation by such means.

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    • But are you willing to fight for your land, for your country, for your heritage?
      If your country is taken, just retake it just like did every of your ancestor.

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  4. LOL 55% in Sweden, they barely got an army. What are they gonna fight with? Are they even aware to what war is with their bullshit SJW insanity?

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    • According to the Peaceful Muslim, they give give up their woman and children upon demand. They prefer them as virgins, so they are asking for preteens. Still no reaction from the feminized males.

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  7. Im sure they’re thinking offensive war. Of course people would fight a defensive war when their mother or wife just got blown up/raped in front of them. Don’t be silly.

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      • Some of the people questioned would have been thinking of an offensive war, some would have been thinking of a defensive war. A large part of the difference between the countries will be due to if the citizens of each country think an offensive or defensive war is more likely.

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    • When mother or wife is blown up or raped it is too late to start thinking of fighting for them and your country!

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    • Marko, you might want to learn something of your own history. Russian troops in the streets, Finns second-class citizens in their own country. Even playing “Finlandia” by Sibelius was good for several years in prison.

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    • Fight for the freedom to say silly things in the internet and questioning the powers-that-be, and for the right to vote in an actually free election. And so forth.

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      • Yes….Eastern ones with 70% of their army being russian “volunteers” who receive daily weapon and ammunition supplies from Russia. Life is a bitch aint’ it Ivan:)

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        • After two revolutions/coups against presidents form the east and the remains of the army reinforced by football hooligans, nazis and private armies marching to crush the East refusing to accept the government resulting from an armed coup, sorry revolutions, you do not need foreign volunteers. Especially considering the GDP per capita of Ukraine and Russia. The East knows it’d be better off as part of Russia than as part of Ukraine. That’s how far down the drain Ukraine went in twenty years.

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          • Hey, Ivan, why don’t you stick with denying Russian interference in electing Trump and not open another lies-and-propaganda front against Ukraine?

          • Yeah, it must have been the Russians, because none of the people you know ever dared to suggest he might consider voting for Trump. For fear of losing job.
            Go read up about Ukraine!

          • I do know that Hitler demanded the Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia because there was a local German-speaking majority there. And that Putin demands eastern Ukraine because there is a local Russian-speaking majority there. And I do know that after Hitler got the Sudetenland he promptly invaded and annexed the rest of Czechoslovakia. And I also know that the leader of the so-called ‘Little Russia’ republic just announced that he intends to conquer and annex the rest of Ukraine.

            So while you call others Nazis, it is you Russians who are acting like Nazis.

          • “Putin demands”? Where? Putin wanted to ensure he wouldn’t lose the naval base, other than that he made no demands. The simile doesn’t hold.

          • Hitler denied the Sudeten German Nazis had any connection to the German German Nazis though the German German Nazis funded and led the Sudeten German Nazis. Your denial of the same role for Russia in Ukraine is the usual Russian disinformation. Please do not be surprised that no one believes you, not even in Russia.

  11. As a Finn I´m of course proud of this result but we must remember that almost all European armies are professional. This is reflected in the results. Finland has the draft and trains its people to form a big military reserve. Trained reserve is 900 000 at the moment. The size of the wartime armed forces that would be mobilized is 230 000 – 240 000 soldiers (army, navy. air force, border guard).

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    • That is very impressive my Finnish friend considering your population size….here in Canada I think we have a regular army of under 50 000….in fact anyone could just about invade us and we would be a push over……

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      • You are across the ocean… we have a 830 mile border with Russia. The draft and a large reserve works for us. It is economical and uses the best resources of the nation for defence. Sweden made a catastrophic decision to practically scrap the army in favor of the air force and the navy. Perhaps they expect the Finns to act as a handy buffer against Russia – again. We were such a buffer when we were part of the Swedish kingdom in the olden days.

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        • How are relations with Russia these days, IIkka? Certainly I am aware of the recent past during WW 2 when your nation made an incredible heroic stand against Stalin….Are things better today or just as tense as they were in the past? We Canadians basically let the U.S. defend us….with America on the top of us and below us, we basically get protected for ‘free’….but if America ever decides to run us over, well…..that will be the end of Canada….ha ha……

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          • Hmmm, how to give a short and precise answer. Since Russian actions in Georgia 2008 and the actions in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine 2014- it was tense. Russian fighters were very active and Finnish air force confronted the Russian planes often several times per week. The importance of the Baltic Sea and the Gulf of Finland have risen. The concensus is that a crisis in the Baltic area involving Russia and the Baltic NATO countries will get Finland (and Sweden) involved in the crisis automatically. The professional soldiers would like to see Finland join NATO but I don´t see that happening any time soon. So Finland has to stay “fiercely independent” 🙂 Military technology is getting more and more expensive and that of course is a problem. Finland is NATO compatible at the moment. The Air Force flies F-18´s and Finland has bought a lot of new technology from the US, Germany and France. New 4th generation fighters will have to be bought soon. The navy is building new corvettes, Leopard tanks have been bought from Germany and Holland. 155 mm howitzers form South Korea… Before the collapse of the Soviet Union most weapons systems were Soviet made. Not any more.

            Relations with Russia… in a way simple, in a way complicated. As a member of the EU the trade restrictions apply. Finland loses 2 billion eur yearly in export trade to Russia. Russia has more or less threatened Finland with big problems should Finland join NATO. The Finnish president will meet Putin twice this year. Lots of Russian tourists visiting Finland, although tourism has dropped a lot since the price of oil has gone down and the Russian income and the value of their currency have dropped. Finland has a population of 5.5. million people and a border of 830 miles with Russia. Russia is not going anywhere. We need to get along. This year Finland will celebrate its 100th Independence Day, Dec 6th. During the independence we have fought two wars against Russia and are still independent. The people are proud of this. We will never give up our independence.

            Btw, I served for three years in the ME. 18 months in the Finnish Bn in Cyprus (UNICYP). There was a Canadian Bn in UNFICYP as well. Then 18 months as a UN Military Observer in UNTSO – Golan heights, Damascus and South Lebanon. Knew many Canadian UNMO:s. We were a tight international group serving under the UN flag.

          • Thank you for that very informative post my Finnish friend! Yes I am sure you have to tread rather carefully with the Russian Bear on your doorstep! Your nation is in a rather unique position! To be honest, my knowledge of your nation is limited to the Battle with Stalin and with some of your very fine Hockey Players that we see here in North America! And I was not aware that you were not a part of Nato? I had no idea. However I am aware that you are not a Scandinavian people. Thank you for your posts….one thing is clear…if Finland ever decided to invade my soft nation of Canada, we would be in trouble….ha ha……

          • Mostly due to losing a large part of the Russian market. For instance large scale Farmers who were basically dependent on selling most of their produce to Russia have to watch it rot or be confiscated and destroyed by Russia (if they try bypassing the retaliatory Russian sanctions).

            Other manufactures like Agricultural equipment manufacturers, High Tech industry, Energy, Tourism, Banking and investment also lost a huge market and have to lower revenue expectations as well as cut back on jobs due to lost orders.

            Considering Finland is a very small country, within a wealthy part of Europe that produces a lot of the same products they cant find alternative competitive markets domestic or foreign to substitute for the large market they lost due to EU sanctions.

          • For the US, if say Russia banned Microsoft products from being sold while promoting competing software. That would cause them massive losses. This can go on to other companies like Apple, Google, IBM, McDonalds, KFC etc given the size of the Russian market it would be a huge blow to these companies and consequently the US economy (since jobs would have to be cut to keep being profitable).

            However the Russians are aware that this can hurt investor confidence in Russia if large foreign private companies don’t feel that their investments in the country are safe from turbulent politics, and they need that to diversify their economy and grow.

            So this would probably be a last resort. On the other hand the US mostly has to rely on other countries to carry out the sanctions on its behalf since there are next to no Russian companies in the US, with the exception of Karspersky Labs which is already on a blacklist as well as Space (rocket engines and NASA-Roscomos collaboration ).

            Most Russian Oligarchs now don’t directly invest in the US due to fear of confiscation of their wealth for whatever reason.

            What little economic activity there is between Russia and the US is mostly one-sided with the US benefiting the most from the untapped growing market. .

          • HI Ilkka!
            It seems I’m in your age, so hope that I can call you just by name, to create some kind of mutual understanding.

            Thanks for your frank description of the general view on our countries (more like peoples) relations from the Finnish side.
            I’m from Russia, living in [South-East] Siberia, and quit agree with your view.
            Of course, I’ve noted the careful definitions “actions” you use in the first place, describing post 2007 history. That is correct, considering the pretext (circumstances) of what was the cause for such “actions”.

            My question, if you will allow me to make one, is of real interest to know more on the Finn’s view on the History and our (Russia and Finland) relationships.

            Is it intentional or unintentional (for Finn’s point of view on the Universe) that you miss to name the country which the Finland had been grated Independence from, at December 6th, 1917th?

            Would be nice to hear from you the reasons for such “indistinct” description of the Finland Independence.

            Regards,
            Sergei.

          • Not gonna happen. We love Canada and Canadians. During the Quebec secession crisis a few years back, there was a potential outcome of your having twenty US senators and sixty congressmen. Not as good as independence maybe, but not too shabby a second choice either.

            I’ll never forget Brian Mulroney’s plea for reconciliation when he called Canada a big beautiful awkward moose calf of a country. We don’t get political rhetoric as good as that south of the border.

        • Hi IIkka ,there is alot of talk of major Refugee issues in Scandinavia in general , what are your thoughts on the issue?

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          • Geographically, Finland is not Scandinavia (but Fennoscandia); culturally, it’s closer to Scandinavia than anything else. Finnish language is entirely different from Scandinavian languages but Finland has during all of its independence followed closely the Scandinavian nations in things like social and legal development. Even before that, we retained the Swedish legal system and laws when we were a Grand Duchy within the Russian Empire in 1809-1917.

            As to Mike’s question about major refugee issues, there are some, though less than in Sweden. There will surely be integration challenges, but we have considerably less ethnic violence than Sweden. (Historically, Finland is much more violent than Sweden, mostly due to drunken-male-on-drunken-male violence, but current development points to Swedish deadly violence exceeding Finnish figures in some time.)

        • What on earth are you talking about? Canada, invaders? Are you referring to the migrations of refugees and others from England who settled in Canada? Aren’t refugees the Great Appreciated Commodity the world over?

          And the US, formed as refuge for prisoners, the indebted, the non-upwardly mobile, the persecuted?

          Aren’t these the very identifiers used today to distinguish all those refugees now trying to arrive in the US and Canada?

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          • Don’t waste your time conversing with RMC. The phrase ‘Other White People’ should give you a clue as to the nature and size of the chip on his or her shoulder.

      • Wrong! Our Canadian Armed forces has over 111,000 fully trained members, 24,000 civilian has support and over 25,000 reservist by the way Canada his view has having the best trainned soldiers in the world and been a veteran myself even at 52 of ages. i would join and die for my country. I cant say the same for you by the look of it.

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        • I am not sure that you know anything about me…..but I do know Canada has badly shirked his responsibiilities military wise…..we do not have 111 000 active troops…as you say they are trained but they are not all active at the same time…that is pathetic for a nation of 36 million and the our size….Canada cannot even defend its own borders…we leave that to the U.S…….I wish it were otherwise but we are ripe to be invaded if certain countries ever desire….though I think our major problem is from within….not outside.

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        • How many of those 111000 fully trained members are in the army and supposed to do the fighting at the front in a case of war? Germany’s armed forces are 180000 strong of which the army, Heer, is 60000. The rest is navy, air force and different support functions.

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    • Good to see there is at least one European country that hasn’t lost it’s balls. It is always better of course if they can maintain or gain independence, without violence. I know I should be all USA! USA! but the US military has just been used as a mercenary force for decades by the globalists that control more than just Washington or Westminster. Every angel flight home they make a big speech about how “they died for our freedoms” yet every day, as more and more US personnel are maimed or killed, we grow less and less free in the USA, and have been since 1781.

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    • Of all its neighbours, I believe Russia respects and ‘fears’ Finland the most. Not only because they know that Finland has kicked their asses several times in the past, but also because they know that they can deal pragmatically with you ‘Sisu’ adhering Finns leading to a relatively productive relationship.

      Am sure when the war the NATO and US Political elites seem to be clamouring for finally gets here, Finland would probably not be on Russia’s plans for any kind of ground or aerial assault unless they want to lose the war in the first battle.

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    • Rotf!!! This is a BS map. I’m Polish and I’ll tell you that EVERY SINGLE POLE would absolutely die for our country.

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      • “EVERY SINGLE POLE” Remember we have a lot of non Poles, and for a long time patriotism was passe…

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        • Did I not say Poles? I’m not talking about Ukranians, Communists and Chechen’s. They will be deposed of quick.Ukranians have to leave. It’s as simple as that. They have the highest percentage of HIV in Europe. They are trash.

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        • And since when is Turkey part of Europe? Hahhaha!!! An Islamic dictatorship isn’t “European”.

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          • dont fuck with Turkey kid.,Poland never conquered the world or Europe,they were and they are mos conquered country in Europe,go back to history,Kiddie.

          • You might might want to learn more about history before running your mouth about it. At its greatest extent, Poland ruled from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea and included all of eastern Europe. They defeated the Turks at the siege of Vienna in 1683. On 9/11. It was the Polish cavalry which established that Europe would not become part of the Moslem Ottoman Empire. The Moslems still mourn 9/11 as their greatest defeat. At the hands of the Poles.

      • I remember some celebrity saying “If there’s a war I get the f..k out of here” That’s common among the young people, especially those going to Woodstock festival.

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        • I’m. My parents are, my all grandparents are/were.
          I can die for my freedom, my family etc. but never for my country.

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      • “Rotf!!! This is a BS map. I’m Polish and I’ll tell you that EVERY SINGLE POLE would absolutely die for our country.”

        I’m Polish, and I call that bullshit.

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        • Most of my family comes from Mazovia; some come from north-eastern Poland; others from what is modern Belarus. None of them were Jews, but even if they were, I don’t think it would be any lees of a Pole. Your racism makes you much less of a Pole though. The Poles who love their country can’t be racist.

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        • Most of my ancestors come from Mazovia; some come from north-eastern Poland and also from what is no modern Belarus. None of them were Jews, but, even if they were, I don’t see how it would make me less of a Pole. However, racism certainly makes less of a Pole. A Polish person who loves their country can’t be racist. You’re certainly not a Pole who cherishes his culture and his country, because you’re a f*^%$g racist.

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          • While I agree with you, GROW UP ! being Jewish isn’t a race just like being a muslim isnt

          • But the Jews are distinct people and have been for 3400 years. We are entitled to a homeland for the same reason the Finns and Poles are.

          • The best Polish writers, like Mickiewicz and Sinkiewicz, firmly condemn antisemitism. Yet most Poles are antisemitic. From which one can only conclude that most Poles have no culture and are a bunch of dumbasses.

        • @disqus_VWNEV2QveE:disqus , your response shows that you’re ill-educated and can’t think in big numbers. Exactly the type the extreme right wing relies upon. You could be a kid, but then you should leave this kind of discussions to adults. In the sad case you’re an adult – I really hope most Poles are smarter than you, and aren’t the a-holes that you are.

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      • I am Georgian and even thought we have a 76% rate, this is way too low. every single person including women or children would die 100 times over for the country without government having to ask to do so.

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        • Did you even read what you wrote? At best each individual could only die once, unless you are all Connor MacLeod of the Clan MacLeod?

          That, plus there will never be 100% unanimity on any subject – let alone dying to further the business interests of the owners of your country. Please try to be a little less silly in your comments

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      • ” I’m Polish and I’ll tell you that EVERY SINGLE POLE would absolutely die for our country.”

        And you base that on absolutely nothing.

        Case closed.

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    • Maybe because England has been part of Europe since Julius Caesar annexed it to the Roman Empire in 49 BCE?

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        • Europe is a geographical area roughly bounded by the Atlantic Ocean, Arctic Ocean, Ural mountains, Caspian Sea, Black Sea and Mediterranean.

          Britain is clearly all in Europe; that they decide to leave the EUropean Union doesn’t magically float the isles out of the European shores. Iceland is usually also included even if the American and Eurasian tectonic plates actually meet there. Russia and Turkey are countries where a majority of the area is in Asia but a significant part of the country, especially in terms of economy and administration, is in Europe.

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      • Finland is useless for Russia. No point to invade it. If Russia would need Finland they would have not given independence to it 100 years ago in the first place!

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        • “Given” Finland independence? Really? The fact that Russia had collapsed into years of civil war and lost Poland, the Baltic countries, Bessarabia, and Finland had nothing to do with it? And the landing of Allied expeditionary forces at Murmansk had nothing to do with it? Are you sure?

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          • Do you actually know the history or make your own? Lenin signed the papers of Finnish independence when they asked him. This is how Finland became independent.

          • Yes, he signed them because he had bigger things to worry about like the chaos in his own country. He didnt plan to give us independence for long though. Just a year later in 1918 russia greatly supported the red socialist rebels in finland during the finnish civil war, in hopes that the traitors would return finland back to socialist russia. It didnt work. Then later during ww2 russia attemped to invade finland again but failed, even though we suffered great losses. So you can take that “given independence” shit and stick it straight up your ass. Russia has always tried to take our independence and we have always had to fight for it with blood.

          • It is precisely because of the landing of 500 Allied vacation-going sissies who supported the losing side (white movement), didn’t participate in any battles (had no military experience and even if they did it would have been against 3 niggers in louisiana) and their tasks boiled down to patrolling a couple of yards around Murmansk…. that the Russian Empire lost Finland….go back to your peasant elementary school and read your own version of history without raising your pitiful deluded voice in public. no need to answer though cause it’s my first and last time participating in this pseudo-historic forum. best of luck and read true history and not the angloamerican shit they’ve brainwashed you with.

        • Let’s agree to make it very clear that there is no point to invade it, and we’ll all be happy. That’s the purpose of the defence forces.

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  14. The GDP (nominal) of the European Union approximates the United States (higher at PPP) but its military budget is less than half of the US … Bottom line … Europe can now protect itself … They’ve rebuilt and advanced … They have been so used to have the US as its Chief Security Officer … Of course, these Europeans, they’re good at fighting among themselves … The 2 world wars a testament to that failing to live in peace with neighbours …

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      • Sorry, Jeffrey, you are wrong. The Dutch army fought bravely against the Germans. The government even opened the dikes and flooded the polders to obstruct German armored columns.

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  19. Fighting to protect your country in case of invasion is one thing. Of course everyone will do it. Going to war elsewhere is another thing – thankfully, not everyone will want to do it and it should not be suggested at all. Question posed incorrectly, that’s it.

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  20. ha ha ha.. ”Grey zone” Slovakia, Slovenia, Hungary, Croatia… may spoil your ”thesis”? ”antemurale Christianitatis” remained unquestioned, by chance? ha ha ha ”briliant maps”…..

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  21. And Norway?? As in the Eurovison Song Contest? The grey zone floating on the nationality of the leader of NATO?

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  22. RIP Netherlands, too bad people have no nerves in that country. Not really surprising with a country where feminism and Gay-tolerance are optimised.

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    • Tell that to the people of countries invaded by Germany in WWII. Poland, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Italy, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Greece, Belarus, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, the bombardment of England, and of course, Russia. So with those minor exceptions, everybody was fighting for land or resource theft.

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      • Finland wasn’t, but the Soviet Union was. The USSR had invaded six countries between 1939 and 1941, and they were the ones who annexed the Baltic countries and also occupied the Eastern Poland in 1939. How come that wasn’t a land or resource theft?

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        • I was being sarcastic. I was demonstrating that @Radical Mariah Carey likes saying fun things like that because it make her feel like she is not just running her mouth without thinking like everybody says.

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          • I have met many people who think that the USSR only became involved in WWII when Germany invaded in 1941. Even many WWII documentaries skip everything that happened before that.

        • An of course, the Soviet invasion of Finland was very clearly about acquiring resources. It is no coincidence that Stalin insisted that border after Winter War was drawn so that the cellulose factories in Enso (now Svetogorsk) were left at the Soviet side of border. It was an essential material for war, after all.

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  24. False equivalence, RedWell. Russia has a high number of Muslims because it has not decolonised. Saying that it is 10% Muslim is akin to saying that Portugal was majority-black in 1960 – a superficially true statement that omits important details.

    Muslims in Russia live in separate countries far away from Russia’s historical territory (Chechnya, Dagestan, Bashkiria, Tatarstan, etc.) E.g., Chechnya is 99%+ Muslim, and the largest Southern Russian city (Rostov-on-Don) is ~1% Muslim. Furthermore, outside the Caucasus, the Muslims are mostly secular (akin to Albanians or Bosnians), and are ethnically closer to Finno-Ugrics or native Siberians than to Middle Easterners. For instance, the largest Muslim ethnic group, the Tatars, has slightly lower fertility rates than Russians do.

    Russia does have a problem with Muslim immigration in Moscow and St. Petersburg, but it does not issue citizenship to its Central Asians, and these temporary workers and illegals are still fewer in number than legal Muslims in Western European cities. The moment the economic crisis started, many of them moved away. By contrast, Western European Muslims live right in the most important urban centres like London, Birmingham, Manchester, Brussels, Rotterdam, Amsterdam, Paris, and they are citizens there.

    In other words, “10% Muslim” in Russia means that there are some Muslims living in a distant republic a la Hawaii, whereas “10% Muslim” in Belgium means that their capital is 25% Muslim. While both create problems, their scale is incomparable.

    Furthermore, since Western European governments are getting more aggressive about open borders, Muslim growth there would mean (natural growth of extant Muslim pop) + (immigrant Muslims) + (natural growth of immigrant Muslims). By contrast, Russian Muslim growth will only include the former, as permanent immigration is relatively modest.

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    • Even if all that is true about Russia, the point still stands: Muslims are growing in Europe, but they are far from ascendant. It’s like thinking that Mormons are going to take over the US. The notion is just empirically misleading.

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      • If 10% of the USA was Mormon, and Mormons maintained a higher birthrate, in a couple of generations they would control the USA.

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    • Wigmont, you are not right.
      Muslims, as the peoples following the Quran, consist of smth. 20 percent of the total Russian Federation population. And they are living almost everywhere within the country, not only “native” “muslims”, but also “gastarbeiters” from Caucasus and Central Asia.
      Actually, Moscow is now called as Moskvabad this days.
      However, there isn’t tensions on the religious soil, usually on a cultural misbehavior.

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  26. Why the fuck is Turkey still included as a European country? Who actually considers Turks European?

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  27. Wait is this a joke – “the 19th century was also a relatively peaceful time for Europe” ?

    The Napoleonic Wars (1803-1815),French invasion of Spain (1823),Russo-Persian War (1826-1828),Russo-Turkish War (1828-1829),First Schleswig War (1848-1851), 3 Wars for Italian Independence starting in 1848 ending in 1866,Crimean War (1854–1856),Austro-Prussian War 1866,Second Schleswig War 1866,Franco-Prussian War (1870-1871,Russo–Turkish War (1877–1878),Serbo-Bulgarian War (1885),Greco–Turkish War (1897),etc,etc,etc

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    • Over 11 million Turks live on the European side of Turkey, about the same as the population of Belgium. And they probably mostly have very European values as well, unlike Anatolia which you are probably thinking of.

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  33. Islam is Hitler number two but just a lot be .. All European politicians can or will not realize this, they deny it to their people ..

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  34. Muslims in Russia have never really been connected to either the Turkish sphere of influence or Saudi Wababbism. They are practically more Russians, in culture, than Russians.

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  36. Why should they and why would they?. Multi culture divides loyalties and most people get treated badly as workers and alleged citizens. The police are corrupt and the tax system targets the hard working, hard pressed lower order people who do vital work for little money, leaving them, of which I am one, struglling to survive.

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  37. It can`t be tru. In Sweden 55% will fight for their nation, but only 13% voted for Sweden as a free nation.

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  38. We have learned how much polls are skewed – this is another Global IslamoMarxist paid for poll to turn out the way Saudi oil money wants it to. However THIS IS FROM 2014, (the field work) and people might be a little more motivated now after the Hijrah in 2015 and all the resultant rapes, murders and chaos = JIHAD to conquer.

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  40. Germany confuses me so much. Germany kicked Americans out of their country back in the 80’s to protect their sovereignty and now here they are willfully giving their country away to these terrorist invaders. WTF GERMANY?!

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  41. European “Men” are literally too cuck to care about their wives and daughters being butchered daily by these Islamic hordes.

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    • And you believe this map. ROTF!!! 100% of Polish people would absolutely die for their country. Who did this survey? Gallup? Bahahahaha!!!!

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  43. I don’t really give much credence to any polls, and this was from almost a few years ago. Look at the surprises regarding polls in America over the last two or so decades, and the polls have been a joke. I have seen footage of the protest from European citizens over the web, (of course this is never reported by the MSM). Today I believe that this is just a bunch of BS leftists PROPAGANDA to fool the masses. I have a feeling that these people are pretty much fed up with their leader’s positions and the flood of vile, rapist and murderous evil of Islam. If this poll is indeed true, then they have to be the most stupid and ignorant idiots on our planet or are depressed into suicidal mentality.

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  44. Kosovo is not a country, It is an illegal UN protectorate/mandate/whatever and is an integral part of Serbia. Montenegro is independent, as is MACEDONIA, which is not FYROM, but Macedonia.

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    • The USA left Eastern Europe to Communism. Also, you didn’t enter the war until Pearl Harbor after millions of people were killed by the Germans and Soviets. So fk off.

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      • Oh, I did not realize that this info, like you, is so limited. I also did not realize that my innocent remark warranted a “fck off.” But I guess that’s the mentality of trolls these days. So sorry for your loss. (BTW, your name, as it represents your mentality, is oh, so very appropriate.) So, might I add, RIGHT BACK AT ‘YA.

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  46. Why would we want to fight after the current EU has gone down the shitter? I’d fight to make it how it was but i’d never fight to keep it the way it is.

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  48. It looks like the more industrialized the nation the less its citizens are willing to fight. Hmmm. I guess they don’t really care how far they have come.

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  50. The countries that appear the least willing to fight have a greater involvement or dependence on the European Union. Shitty Shepard Shitty Sheep.

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  53. And that’s how Islam will dominate those countries filled with people who would choose apathy or cowardice over freedom. Islam will take over such countries not by force or persuasion, but by their surrender. For those spineless liberal cowards who are unwilling to fight for your own land and heritage – you don’t deserve freedom, nor will you have it. You might as well start shopping for your prayer rugs and burkas now, and prepare to see your mothers, your sisters, wives, daughters, and your sons, murdered, raped, or sold to others as slaves with less value than cattle.

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  54. Why is this map incomplete? There are several countries colored gray with no numbers attached. Were these countries simply not poled?

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  55. Data about Cyprus, a member of EU is not provided but for Turkey, not an EU member (and since when a European country?) data are provided. Brilliant is not…

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    • This was a map of “European countries”, not “European union”. But not all European countries were included – apparently because the survey was not done in these countries.

      Here’s a link to the Gallup page: http://gallup-international.bg/en/Publications/2015/220-WIN-Gallup-International%E2%80%99s-global-survey-shows-three-in-five-willing-to-fight-for-their-country
      — it says the survey was done in 64 countries, lists them, and Cyprus is not one of them (neither is e.g. Norway of Luxembourg).

      Cyprus is geographically more Asian than European (clearly lying off the coast of Asia minor) but culturally, half of it is Greek, i.e. European, so of course it would have gone on this map if data were available.

      And remember, the traditional meaning for “Europe” is that which Europa, Queen of Crete, sees when she looks west (“ereb” in some Semitic languages), and then Cyprus is clearly behind her back. Sorry.

      However, I wouldn’t take these figures at face value. The question may be interpreted quite differently in different languages and circumstances.

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  56. I find it interesting that most countries that were protagonists of WWII are the ones that are lower in the table. Exception is Russia of course, but with their current leader you wouldn’t expect it differently. Would be curious to know the proportion in the US.

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  58. Oh Gawd, your language is so funny! I think all your enemies will die laughing if you just talk to them.

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  59. Japan knows that war has not done good for anybody…top political leaders should try to create situations so as to avoid war at any cost whenever possible!! But anyways good to see the results for Finland.

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  60. Note the high percentage in countries bordering with Russia. As a citizen of one of such countries I need to admit that this is not a coincidence, but just a good historical memory

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  61. Well why are we supposed to be cannon fodder while the fat cats sits in their mansions planing the next conflict? As someone else said: war is dead.

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  66. WAR is evil. Have we not learned anything from World War One, World War Two, Korean War, Vietnam War, Iraq War, Afghanistan and many other small confrontations that have taken place around the world.Get rid of all weapons of mass destruction and stop selling arms world wide.

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  67. « On a la guerre qu’on mérite » (Sartre)

    (?!)

    I gotta admit that I’m a little bit confused.
    Sometimes it seems to me as if I’m just being used.
    Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
    If I don’t stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this
    maze?

    Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
    That everyone’s expendable and no-one has a real friend.
    And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
    And everything’s done under the sun,
    And you believe at heart, everyone’s a killer.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nw6j0MSW_s

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  71. Well it really depends. For sure I would not be willing to fight for my country if we were doing something I consider wrong. It is different if I had to defend my home and my family from foreign invasion.

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  72. Americans, you have to understand that ww2 affected a lot to europeans. While for USA started their expansion to the world, europe started their full retreat with their armies going back home.
    European governments priorized the reconstruction and the prosperity of their nationals. Peace, love, union and jobs for europeans.
    The issue that eastern europeans are more interest to fight a war that western one is because their proximity to Russia that is giant menace of the east and they dont forget the occupation of Soviet Union during decades with a conquering behaviour.
    Western europeans are more obsess with the economy and prosperity.

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  73. Does anyone have a legitimate source for this survey? The article doesn’t mention research questions or goals. And the link is empty.

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